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  1. Sure States
    May 11, 2017 @ 10:11 am

    Hi Rebekah, Yes! A good constructive fight! I for one don’t want to see this church, the Methodist church split over this issue. Instead let’s fight, engage each other in dialogue:constructive,destructive,let me hear from you-structive. Let’s get together and RUMBLE! There is so much to loose if we continue to put our heads in the sands that are continually shifting.

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    • Rebekah Simon-Peter
      May 12, 2017 @ 4:00 pm

      Rumble sounds like West Side Story! I like “let me hear from you-structive.”

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  2. Cynthia Astle
    May 11, 2017 @ 3:05 pm

    Your post was recommended by a Facebook friend. May I have your permission to republish it on United Methodist Insight? Please reply by email. Thank you.

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    • Rebekah Simon-Peter
      May 12, 2017 @ 3:59 pm

      Thanks Cynthia. I sent the email.

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  3. rtcdmc
    May 11, 2017 @ 6:41 pm

    My wife is a member of a Methodist congregation, and I have been following this debate with some interest and curiosity.
    There was one clause in this piece which I do not understand.
    Since this is a debate within a Christian church, how is it helpful to have the viewpoints of non-Christians?
    By definition there is no shared belief; therefore, trust will not be enhanced.

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    • Rebekah Simon-Peter
      May 12, 2017 @ 3:59 pm

      Good question. Sometimes being in conversation with people who are very different than we are helps us see ourselves anew. It’s like traveling to a foreign country and learning more about your own country in the process.

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  4. Karen Gibson
    May 11, 2017 @ 9:12 pm

    I really appreciated your blog Rebekah. Dr. Hal Knight suggested in his book, The Conversation Matters, referring to the conversation as Holy Conversation. I see what you are describing with constructive conflict as the subject matter within the Holy Conversation. Thank you.

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    • Rebekah Simon-Peter
      May 12, 2017 @ 3:58 pm

      It would be a Holy Conversation to have constructive conflict rather than retribution.

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  5. a l e
    May 12, 2017 @ 5:43 am

    my thought—go ahead an split—UMC is an earthly denomination—established by humans—a split occurred over slavery in the 19th century….and mid-20th century returned together….
    I fully believe that after the younger generations become the age of the baby boomers…and after the baby boomers have affectively disappeared….that these younger generation Christians will look at the issues of today and say….what was the big deal….and the issues of gay marriage…acceptance…will have merged into the fabric of all life and culture….
    the hopefully by that time…the splits of the current UMC…will be led once again by that amazing Holy Spirit to consider Merger II…

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    • Rebekah Simon-Peter
      May 12, 2017 @ 3:57 pm

      We have definitely split and come together in the past. It just might be the best thing. On the other hand, wouldn’t it be great if we got creative enough to craft solutions that worked for everyone? That would be an awesome witness to the world. Especially in this age of no-compromise, no-way, no-how.

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  6. Lisa Panico
    May 20, 2017 @ 3:10 pm

    My experience with the Methodist church has taken many turns. When I first joined 20 yrs ago I was happy to be going to church but hesitant to call my self a Methodist. After a few years I finally decided I was all in, a Methodist! I was so happy to be a part of such a progressive (I thought) and giving church filled with lovely people. As I learned more about the structure and BOD and political ‘stuff’ going on outside of our local church I became less excited and more disappointed and let down. With all of this coming to light I am now embarrassed by the church that I was once so proud of. I have now come full circle, right back where I started. I am happy to be part of my local church which is still filled with lovely people who are real servers. But I am hesitant to say I am a Methodist. As a wise friend of mine said, “I don’t see God through the eyes of my church, but see the church through the eyes of God. My faith will not be challenged by people who much like the Pharisees, let rules get in the way of love. My focus will be on the love and not the institution.

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  8. B St Clair
    October 5, 2017 @ 11:21 am

    The difficulty in addressing the conflict is identifying both the surface issue (human sexuality) as well as the underlying issues. The present conflict is probably like an iceberg – we see only 5-10% of the friction. The underlying issues are theological (i.e., primacy of scripture) and financial. Maybe the adage, “It’s about the money.”, should be brought to the surface. Without any empirical information, it may be reasonable to hypothesize that traditionalists who want to maintain the status quo (homosexuality incompatible with Christian teaching) are in the Southeastern and Southwestern jurisdictions, which are also the jurisdictions with strongest metrics of membership and resources. Could it be that these strong jurisdictions would like to prune their church by separating from those jurisdictions which are dwindling and becoming a financial burden? It may be considered bad form (greedy) to talk about the financial picture publicly, so some use another issue – human sexuality – to achieve a trimming of what they consider the dead wood. In short, this present conflict is an opportunity to have a catharsis, to bring out all the issues that have been shoved into closets and swept under rugs. Considering this conflict solely within the frame of human sexuality may be missing the bigger picture and inadvertently kicking the conflict down the road where it will rise up under another guise.

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